13 Replies Latest reply: Jun 1, 2019 1:25 AM by Juergen Ilse CCNA R&S RSS

    Trying to get certified

    Binoy

      I have been trying to get certified without using brain dumps. I have not been very successful. The institute that I approached for training and the friends that I talked with insist that brain dumps give you an idea about the kind of questions that would be asked in the exam. As I understand its quite a common practise among certification seekers to use brain dumps. I did attempt the exam without looking at the brain dumps, but was not successful. In this part of the world to get a job (as I understand) one needs to be certified. I am having a hard time passing the exam. The questions that come in the exam are no way close to the ones shown in the book (this is what I understand). Please let me know what is the fool proof way of passing the exam without using brain dumps. How am I supposed to clear the exam with my ethical stance. Appreciate if someone could explain.

        • 1. Re: Trying to get certified
          Juergen Ilse CCNA R&S

          Binoy schrieb:

           

          I have been trying to get certified without using brain dumps. I have not been very successful.

          It is not allowed to use braindumps for exam preparation.

          The institute that I approached for training and the friends that I talked with insist that brain dumps give you an idea about the kind of questions that would be asked in the exam.

          There exist practice exams, that can also give you an idea about the type of questions in the exam. Even if i don't know them from my own experience, BOSON practice exams should be fine ...

          As I understand its quite a common practise among certification seekers to use brain dumps.

          If cisco gets knowledge of the use of braindumps for exam preparation, they could revoke your certification and don't allow you to take another attempt ...

          I did attempt the exam without looking at the brain dumps, but was not successful.

          Even if you don't use braindumps, it may be a good idea to use practice exams like the ones from boson to check your knowledge and to get a feeling of how the exam may be.

           

          Good luck for your next attempt.

          • 2. Re: Trying to get certified
            Binoy

            Thanks for the detailed explanation. Probably guys like you are a rarity. I need to keep taking the test and study hard.

            • 3. Re: Trying to get certified
              Binoy

              Cisco gave me this reply when I wrote to them.

               

              Hi Binoy,

               

              Thanks for reaching out.

               

              Q:           Can I pass the exam by studying only the information found within this course?

               

              A:           While it is possible to pass the final exam using only the information found within this course, we recommend combining it with other learning materials, including:

               

              All development starts with a blueprint, and then the course(s) and exam(s) are built to that.  You can find the blueprint online here: http://www.laperuyal.com/?cert=community/certifications/

              In comparison to the exam, the eLearning (ELT) uses the same blueprint and covers the same topics, the same labs (adapted slightly to add information because the student is not in front of an instructor to ask questions), and the same overall material as the instructor-led training.  This eLearning is the same material you'd get if you sat down in the 1-week course, and we've had some users tell us they passed their exam on the first try using only the ELT as their study guide, but you should combine it with other learning materials. The book that you referred to—I assume the one from Cisco Press—is notproduced by Cisco. Cisco Press uses the Cisco name but it’s not affiliated with Cisco.

              You might also want to join the Study Groups http://www.laperuyal.com/?cert=community/learning_center/featured-groups to post a question if it hasn’t already been asked and answered there.

              During our ANSI-certified design process we develop the blueprint design for our certifications based on extensive focus-group testing of subject-matter experts and people who perform a specific job. This detailed blueprint contains a list of all of the knowledge, skills, and tasks that are required for that particular job or function.

              The authors of the courses and the authors of the exam questions are separated, but both line up with the same blueprint. 

              Under ANSI quality rules, course developers are not allowed to see exam questions, and exam-question-writers do not share information with course designers. This ANSI rule is designed to ensure that courses teach the required knowledge and skills to do a job, rather than just teaching how to answer exam questions. By ensuring that students actually have the knowledge and skills, we are ensuring the trust that employers place in the certifications, and avoiding the “paper certification” phenomenon whereby somebody can answer the test questions, but cannot perform the basic tasks of the job.

              This is very similar to the general education market, where there may be many high school chemistry textbooks that vary in the actual lab exercises and presentation, but they all enable students to understand the basic topics of chemistry to cover the standard topics on standardized tests. The textbook authors are given a list of teaching topics to cover, but not copies of the exam questions.

              I hope this helps.

               

              Kind regards,

              Dawn

              • 4. Re: Trying to get certified
                ciscodaze1

                What is your study plan?

                 

                If you have a good study plan (which books you will use, which videos you will use, whether you will purchase material such as a udemy.com course, or get a safaribooksonline subscription) and stick to it, you will succeed eventually.  Assuming you don't have any severe financial limitations.

                • 5. Re: Trying to get certified
                  ciscodaze1

                  Which exam are you trying to pass?  And who does this Dawn person work for?  And what kind of materials were you using for exam prep? (book, lab manuals, etc...)  And how were you labbing?

                  • 6. Re: Trying to get certified
                    Binoy

                    Dawn works for Cisco

                    • 7. Re: Trying to get certified
                      ciscodaze1

                      The email seems a little old...the Premium subscription has been gone for a couple of years now.

                       

                      Anyway, Im willing to help you develop a study plan, if you want to talk about it. I worked with students in a NetAcad for several years.

                       

                      Many others here are more than qualified to help you with a plan as well.  Its not really rocket science.  Its just organizing a study plan of attack, a schedule, and sticking with it.

                      • 8. Re: Trying to get certified
                        Binoy

                        Thanks Kev. I was thinking of CCENT exam. Which one would you recommend to start with and also the resources? Appreciate your help

                        • 9. Re: Trying to get certified
                          Bruno

                          Yes, it is totally possible to pass without brain dumps.

                           

                          Read cover to cover:

                          Official certification guide - Wendell Odom

                          CCNA certification guide - Todd Lammle


                          Read again, but this time chapter by chapter and do not forget to answer the questions at the end of each chapter. Make sure you understand each chapter and if the books are not enough do not be shy to use any other source until you full understand the subject.


                          Watch video courses that best suit you and take notes. You can use more than one source.


                          Use packet tracer for labs in order to reinforce  the knowledge previously gain.


                          Use official test practice (I can recommend Boson, the good thing in here is they provide a test engine and detailed explanation of the answers). However, before you check the answers, try to answer yourself which answer is right and why the others are wrong. If necessary repeat the previous steps if you feel that you are failing too many questions.


                          Test day:

                          It might happen that you fail and if so, schedule a new exam date. At this time you have the real feel of the exam and a report stating your weakest areas. Study accordingly.


                           

                          • 10. Re: Trying to get certified
                            ciscodaze1

                            That would be a good study plan.

                            • 11. Re: Trying to get certified
                              ciscodaze1

                              Bruno outlined a good study plan. But can you tell us what you did last time? You studied for the ICND1, took it and did not pass. Is that correct?

                               

                              What had you done to prepair for that exam attempt? <--- Details needed here please, so we can fine tune a study plan that will suit your needs best.

                              • 12. Re: Trying to get certified
                                Binoy

                                I did the CCNA long time back. Back then I read through CCNA book Wendell Odom and companion guide. This is time I want to do it right (no brain dumps)

                                • 13. Re: Trying to get certified
                                  Juergen Ilse CCNA R&S

                                  Binoy schrieb:

                                   

                                  I did the CCNA long time back. Back then I read through CCNA book Wendell Odom and companion guide. This is time I want to do it right (no brain dumps)

                                  Good luck! If you really understand the topics from the blueprint, and if you can do subnet calculations fast enough, i'm sure you will pass.